. >> chris: one thing the economy -- the business community was begging for, it was certainty from washington. we don't care what you do. good policy, bad policy, give us a policy we know we'll live under for the next few years and we can start to make decisions. i don't see how a business man would have any idea what will happen as a result of what is happening here or looking ahead two months to the debt ceiling. >> i agree. i think obama -- president obama out maneuvered the congressional republicans. maybe it isn't hard, sometimes, but can't out maneuver reality and the reality is we are running a $1 trillion deficit and the deal does nothing about that and does nothing to stimulate economic growth and irresponsibly cuts defense and we'll pay a terrible price for that, as a country, and he is the only president we have and this is where -- i'm not making it a partisan point, a terrible failure of leadership, he's the president and the truth is, the speaker can't do it and minority and majority leader can't do it. he has to be serious about dealing with reality and reality is the real clif